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PO1911 Admin, Global Overlord, O.G.D.R.
Joined: 16 Sep 2008 Posts: 3782 Location: Not where I want to be
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:32 pm Post subject: Building a new grill |
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well now that im done with my tv cabinet, its on to the next project in a medium I am much better at STEEL lol but anyway I have a question for any of you that have ever done any steel fab, (azmidget etc,) I am fairly surgical with a angle grinder and cutting wheels, in fact this is usually all I leave of a wheel and thats only because the housing gets in the way......
now I had a couple of shitty days at work birds nested my lift cable on my work truck, bad customers, overloads etc. and I felt the need for a lil destruction so I am building a new grill, out of a 30gal propane tank
so I stopped at harbor freight on the way home to get some 4.5in thin cutting wheels as I was running low on them, now I have been using these same wheels for years I dont use them as much since I got the chop saw but when I dont want to torch cut something that wont fit in the chop I go back to the angle grinder now I figured I would use up 4 wheels cutting this tank up, but the first 5 out of the pack did this
WTF I would barely touch the steel not even all the way through and shrapnel all over the place, dug up some old ones and they worked fine (shown in top pic with a new wheel) anyway I am going to move this into the hobby thread after a bit but I just wanted your take on the exploding blade phenomena as I know there are a few of you with experience with such things
oh and one more thing
thats how the tank looks cut I am going to torch the fittings off this weekend, cut some fill plates and burn them on, then start on the legs _________________ “The police cannot protect the citizen at this stage of our development, and they cannot even protect themselves in many cases. It is up to the private citizen to protect himself and his family, and this is not only acceptable, but mandatory.” Jeff Cooper
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homer O.G.D.R
Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Posts: 390 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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I have never been much for things like cutting wheels form harbor fright, I usually get them from Fastenal. Nice grill too. |
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squirtbottle09 Whiney little Bitch, O.G.D.R.
Joined: 02 Jan 2009 Posts: 1212 Location: Navasota, Tx
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Harbor freight shit. You answered your question in your title... _________________
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scott1981 Jr admin,G.O.I.T., O.G.D.R
Joined: 17 Sep 2008 Posts: 4564 Location: Texas, what country are you from?
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:55 am Post subject: |
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I have had a bloody knuckle from a socket that broke clean in half. They are surprisingly cheap, but it really worked it shows in the quality _________________ If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless.
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Dankle 666 O.G.D.R
Joined: 31 Oct 2008 Posts: 962 Location: smOAKDALE, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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homer wrote: | I have never been much for things like cutting wheels form harbor fright, I usually get them from Fastenal. Nice grill too. |
x2! Fastenal has a good return policy and they can beat beat down on their pricing. When you go to pay for it haggle the price. An active account or sale is worth more to the sales people than giving you a 15% discount. If you make friends with a person in your local Fastenal you can get hooked up. I used to hook certain people up with my employee pricing. It is REALLY easy to give discounts in the computer. When you ring up the part # and QTY, it gives you an option for "pricing" and you can select a 5% discount, 10%discount, 15%discount, Contract, or "Mark up". With "Mark up" you enter the % OVER what Fastenal gets it for that you want to charge. Employee pricing is 1.2% "mark up". If you get shoddy cutting wheels, drill bits, etc bring it back for free replacement. I only seen 1 return for quality issues the whole year+ that I worked there. A customer called and told us the blind rivets we sold him were faulty and the head kept breaking off the mandrel without fastening the rivet. We loaded a new box with a different lot number and drove it out to him free of charge. _________________ Sig by Storm @ Screenfx.. Thanks!
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MercedesTech O.G.D.R
Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 411 Location: RP, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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betcha money that the pack was dropped. Even a light drop can send these premature failure cracks through the disc. As soon as you start grinding, BAM, they explode. Maybe something heavy was being stacked on em, I don't know.
You said the 1st 4 broke, what about number 5 ? 6 ? etc ? _________________ TRUTH:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o
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homer O.G.D.R
Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Posts: 390 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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Dankle 666 wrote: | homer wrote: | I have never been much for things like cutting wheels form harbor fright, I usually get them from Fastenal. Nice grill too. |
x2! Fastenal has a good return policy and they can beat beat down on their pricing. When you go to pay for it haggle the price. An active account or sale is worth more to the sales people than giving you a 15% discount. If you make friends with a person in your local Fastenal you can get hooked up. I used to hook certain people up with my employee pricing. It is REALLY easy to give discounts in the computer. When you ring up the part # and QTY, it gives you an option for "pricing" and you can select a 5% discount, 10%discount, 15%discount, Contract, or "Mark up". With "Mark up" you enter the % OVER what Fastenal gets it for that you want to charge. Employee pricing is 1.2% "mark up". If you get shoddy cutting wheels, drill bits, etc bring it back for free replacement. I only seen 1 return for quality issues the whole year+ that I worked there. A customer called and told us the blind rivets we sold him were faulty and the head kept breaking off the mandrel without fastening the rivet. We loaded a new box with a different lot number and drove it out to him free of charge. |
Yeah I'm a regular at the fastenal by our shop, good guys and they have replaced stuff for us before. I never have to worry about the pricing, I have plenty of freedom the with company charge account |
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PO1911 Admin, Global Overlord, O.G.D.R.
Joined: 16 Sep 2008 Posts: 3782 Location: Not where I want to be
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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MercedesTech wrote: | betcha money that the pack was dropped. Even a light drop can send these premature failure cracks through the disc. As soon as you start grinding, BAM, they explode. Maybe something heavy was being stacked on em, I don't know.
You said the 1st 4 broke, what about number 5 ? 6 ? etc ? |
ok that is possible I had not thought of that, #5 ground all the way down to a nub the others are still not been used, I did most of the cut with the half used ones I had laying around
the fastenal website is being a bitch but I am pretty sure the closest one to me is nearly 45 miles from the house and at least 15mi from work
harbor freight is only 2 mi out of my way if I stop on my way home _________________ “The police cannot protect the citizen at this stage of our development, and they cannot even protect themselves in many cases. It is up to the private citizen to protect himself and his family, and this is not only acceptable, but mandatory.” Jeff Cooper
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MercedesTech O.G.D.R
Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 411 Location: RP, CA
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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PO1911 wrote: | MercedesTech wrote: | betcha money that the pack was dropped. Even a light drop can send these premature failure cracks through the disc. As soon as you start grinding, BAM, they explode. Maybe something heavy was being stacked on em, I don't know.
You said the 1st 4 broke, what about number 5 ? 6 ? etc ? |
ok that is possible I had not thought of that, #5 ground all the way down to a nub the others are still not been used, I did most of the cut with the half used ones I had laying around
the fastenal website is being a bitch but I am pretty sure the closest one to me is nearly 45 miles from the house and at least 15mi from work
harbor freight is only 2 mi out of my way if I stop on my way home |
Just a thought, I know it doesn't do much good now. Sorry man.
Look into some local welding supply stores. Thats where we get all our shit. Good quality, plus they are usually a small business. Always better to conduct business with another small shop if ya ask me.
and yes, fasteal website blows. Loading slower then shit.... _________________ TRUTH:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o
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PO1911 Admin, Global Overlord, O.G.D.R.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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well low and behold there is a fastnal about 3 blocks from where I work I will stop there tomorrow and check it out _________________ “The police cannot protect the citizen at this stage of our development, and they cannot even protect themselves in many cases. It is up to the private citizen to protect himself and his family, and this is not only acceptable, but mandatory.” Jeff Cooper
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MercedesTech O.G.D.R
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PO1911 Admin, Global Overlord, O.G.D.R.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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here is what I have for welding supply stores in tucson
pima welding (prices suck really bad)
consolidated welding which is a chain store affiliate (prices suck monkey balls)
us air weld
airgas all the local mom and pop type welding supply shops are out I used to go to Red's but he passed on about 4 years ago, and the very few that are left are just reselling the shit they buy from airgas and us air weld (after a hefty markup)
sigh _________________ “The police cannot protect the citizen at this stage of our development, and they cannot even protect themselves in many cases. It is up to the private citizen to protect himself and his family, and this is not only acceptable, but mandatory.” Jeff Cooper
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PO1911 Admin, Global Overlord, O.G.D.R.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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who the fuck thats about to loose some mod privileges edited my fucking title _________________ “The police cannot protect the citizen at this stage of our development, and they cannot even protect themselves in many cases. It is up to the private citizen to protect himself and his family, and this is not only acceptable, but mandatory.” Jeff Cooper
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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PO1911 wrote: | who the fuck thats about to loose some mod privileges edited my fucking title | it was me _________________
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PO1911 Admin, Global Overlord, O.G.D.R.
Joined: 16 Sep 2008 Posts: 3782 Location: Not where I want to be
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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daminit my damm oxygen bottle is empty, one more damm thing I have to do tomorrow my own damm fault tho left the valve open a little bit for like...umm....7 months last time I used it
and I just got it filled before the last time I used it _________________ “The police cannot protect the citizen at this stage of our development, and they cannot even protect themselves in many cases. It is up to the private citizen to protect himself and his family, and this is not only acceptable, but mandatory.” Jeff Cooper
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